Phase/Haseo
Well, is this relevent at all? pHASEo. Phase. Haseo. p-Haseo. See it? The last four letters of Phase are the first letters of Haseo's name. I'm sure this has been mentioned before, right? (168.11.40.100)
- How is this relevant to begin with?--134.154.118.79 17:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Pure coincidence. --Shinsou Wotan 21:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a big fan of this one:
- - Kuukai2 21:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Pure coincidence. --Shinsou Wotan 21:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Job
Where is this mentioned? - Some Guy 22:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Episode 5 of Roots, Shino makes a little joke about it. --CRtwenty 22:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Icolo?
Does Haseo ever join Icolo? Or does he just get the Guest Pass? --CRtwenty 18:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, he doesn't. He has the requirements to join, but like Endrance, he didn't. Kulaguy 01:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Quote
I don't know the exact quote but the quote I added happens around the time Haseo starts shouting at Atoli. Anyone able to get the exact wording? Kulaguy 00:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Length
Wow, this is going to be a LONG page when we're done with it. Any ideas of how to make it more readable? Maybe subsections or multiple pages or something? --CRtwenty 22:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe it's because it's describing pretty much EVERYTHING that happens to Haseo. Reduce the GU+ section and others. There's no need to describe everything Haseo goes through. Thorough descriptions are usually meant for episode pages. Kulaguy 00:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Infobox
The infobox is too big. It obscures the writing... How do I shrink it? (Not good with wikia software...)
- The infobox isn't big. It's either your screen resolution or because you're looking at a page with barely any info on it. Look in the recent changes. Nothing has been changed with the Characters Infobox. Kulaguy 22:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Somehow, It was showing up as too big last time. It isn't anymore...
Don't suppose there's any more info out about the whole Phase Avatar thing? Fidchell
Didn't Shino disband the guild? Not Ovan?--Gundam Fan 11:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Shino disbanded it. --CRtwenty 16:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
English VA
Yuri Lowenthal? And this is confirmed where? Kulaguy 20:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- ANN, his site (kinda), and a few other Google-able places as far as I know - Kuukai2 20:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was confirmed on Altimit Corp.com in the memos here's the link [1]--Coolkid602006 02:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Or you could just look in the credits for the game XD. --CRtwenty 04:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Lol, class was changed to Adept Rogue. ... Well at least this place is not biased towards the name change.
- Oh don't get us wrong, most of us hate it. But that doesn't change the fact that it's official. --CRtwenty 01:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
On th JP VA it says Haseo was Takahiro but for Sieg its Takahiko. Which is it? Also on Sieg talk page.
Episode 26
I was just re-watching the final episode and noticed a little something at the end when we see Haseo and Skeith at Arche Koeln Falls, doesn't this seem quite similar to the 'X Form' from the preview for Vol 3. --Phoenix 22:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. There was a lot of debate over that but we're pretty sure it was a translucent shadow of Xth Form, which is why it wasn't entirely white. ~ Ichida
Parents
In today's dub ep, "Breakup", Haseo looked up when Ovan was screaming, and said he thought he heard someone calling him. Tabby suggested it was his parents, but he said he doesn't live with them anymore. Is that in the Japanese version (the actual JP version, not fansubs. The ones people go by seem littered with errors) or is it a dub mistake? - Biccy 18:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it is. Haseo lives away from his parents now.--AuraTwilight 21:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Haseo this..Haseo that...
Why is eveyone concerned about some guy with a crappy attitude and on a blinding mission of revenge? We need to focus on the real hero Kite.
- ... And we return to you spamming. :/ You were doing good too. For two posts, but still. - Biccy 03:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Kite's story is done. The whole point of GU is basically a character study of Haseo's developing psyche. (Well, besides the AIDA and the Ultimate AI ressurection thing, but y'know.) --AuraTwilight 03:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC) NOOOO Kite's story is'nt over there's still so many questions that need to be answered!!!--Kite X 03:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to say "deal with it" since I don't see why they'd want to elaborate on Kite's background.--SicInfit 04:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Is any of this true?
I found a topic on dothackers with a link to a picture of a book, that had some... interesting info to say the least, but seeing as I don't speak japanese, I need Kuukai or someone else to check it out, to make sure it isn't just dothackers junk. Here's the dothackers topic.
http://www.dothackers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9758
- I asked Niu the source, but my suspicion is that it's true. I don't know who would go out of their way to print a fake book and take pictures, and it does indeed indicate Sora = Haseo. Also, Wiseman's name is Takumi Hino, and Bo is Iori Nakanishi. This is very surprising, but I buy it a lot more than the "Taihaku is Balmung" info, which of course didn't even have pics... This would also explain why the "Skeith" part of Haseo acted kinda like Sora... - Kuukai2 18:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't buy the Sora=Haseo theory... Sora clearly remembered everything that had happened to him in Unison. Why would Haseo have fogotten? Seems like a fake to me. --CRtwenty 19:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- For now I'll just say that I have my doubts about its authenticity. Either it's so new that the names haven't yet been put anywhere that Google has seen them, or it's fake. --Shinsou Wotan 20:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's at least the former, the first mention of this was like a day and a half ago. Google doesn't crawl that fast. As far as I can tell the story is corraborated by people on the official BBS. I'm trying to get Niu to explain the source of the pictures. This definitely seems more legitimate than the thing Kadaaju was talking about, though. - Kuukai2 22:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Haseo didn't even know what PKing was in the first episode of Roots. There's no way he's Sora unless he got some convienent magic amnesia. --AuraTwilight 01:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- I take it that by "convenient", you mean "no memory of anything related to The World in any way"? --Shinsou Wotan 02:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, that and it's a "convenient" plot device to make him totally forget about Za Warudo in it's entirety, right down to what the heck a Dungeon is, when there's no reason to have Amnesia in the first place. If there was such a case of amnesia, it would've been mentioned in the series itself, not a supplemental book. --AuraTwilight 04:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly... I've heard some farfetched theories about .hack before... but this one isn't plausible at all. --CRtwenty 05:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- How!? How the hell does it work? You can say "Oh this valid source says it" all you want. But for something this big at least give us some transcripts or proof. --CRtwenty 06:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Pics are the gold standard here. Sakubo's name: [2] Yata's name: [3] I'm not adding anything about Haseo because it's still possible that he was just some random victim or something. I wouldn't say the information in this book is unreliable though, we added all the information from the last fanbook. Given that this book clearly exists, and it's endorsed, if it were wrong it would represent an unprecedented failure of quality control in canon-related .hack info, the Japanese version of the Liminality Easter Eggs. Analysis makes some mistakes, but never anything like "Crim lives on the moon and eats magical berries all day long". Also, how much more than pictures of the pages do we need for "transcripts or proof"? - Kuukai2 06:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't usually chime in, but I just wanted to point out a few things. Specifically: 1) that as far as I am aware, none of us has held this book, thus it cannot certainly be said to "exist" beyond doubt, and 2) that until this is confirmed beyond doubt, I do not feel that this information can be added to the wiki. My personal feelings aside, the controversy around this alone is enough to keep this out, at least for the time being. There is too much new information which, while it may not conflict with old data, is extremely jarring in many ways. That's my two cents. --Rintaun 06:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Those pictures count as proof for the names. But considering this whole Haseo thing really makes no sense I think a translation of the page in question is needed. --CRtwenty 06:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- To be entirely honest, I don't necessarily feel that the pictures *are* enough proof. I really think it's all or nothing, at this point. It will not hurt to wait a bit longer until this actual, physical book is more widespread (has it even actually been released yet, or is this a leak?). There are a lot of things that we still don't know.. for example: assuming that this book is legitimate, and the data in it is correct.. what the hell ELSE is in it? O_o This is already pretty earthshaking, imo... --Rintaun 07:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Those pictures count as proof for the names. But considering this whole Haseo thing really makes no sense I think a translation of the page in question is needed. --CRtwenty 06:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't usually chime in, but I just wanted to point out a few things. Specifically: 1) that as far as I am aware, none of us has held this book, thus it cannot certainly be said to "exist" beyond doubt, and 2) that until this is confirmed beyond doubt, I do not feel that this information can be added to the wiki. My personal feelings aside, the controversy around this alone is enough to keep this out, at least for the time being. There is too much new information which, while it may not conflict with old data, is extremely jarring in many ways. That's my two cents. --Rintaun 06:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Pics are the gold standard here. Sakubo's name: [2] Yata's name: [3] I'm not adding anything about Haseo because it's still possible that he was just some random victim or something. I wouldn't say the information in this book is unreliable though, we added all the information from the last fanbook. Given that this book clearly exists, and it's endorsed, if it were wrong it would represent an unprecedented failure of quality control in canon-related .hack info, the Japanese version of the Liminality Easter Eggs. Analysis makes some mistakes, but never anything like "Crim lives on the moon and eats magical berries all day long". Also, how much more than pictures of the pages do we need for "transcripts or proof"? - Kuukai2 06:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's a strategy guide. The sheer number of people who are claiming they have held it (including the wiki dude) indicates it does exist, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just because the people saying so are Japanese and not members of this wiki shouldn't change too much, enough independent people are talking about it. If I said I had it right now, how much better would that be than the word of the anal-retentive wiki guy? Not much, in fact I think I'd trust me less... Aside from the Haseo thing, nothing really "conflicts" with the new info... Well, even the Haseo thing doesn't conflict given every other screwy continuity thing about G.U... But, regardless, the book exists, as definitely as if I were holding it. If it's fake it's the most elaborate publishing retail hoax thing I've heard of in my life, and someone's getting sued... Ok, gimme a second and I'll translate the Haseo thing. Aren't you like a scanslator or something though? - Kuukai2 07:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think you're misunderstanding my intentions. My intent is not to question the reliability of any person, yourself included. While I would definitely appreciate translations, that's not exactly what I'm looking for. And yes, I am a translator.. but I'm not as good at reading Japanese as I could be, to be entirely honest. What really matters to me is this: when / how can the rest of us get access to this book? Has it been published publicly yet? What book is it from? It's from a strategy guide? That's definitely a step in the right direction. But basically, I'd just rather confirm the actual source material (not necessarily the content) before making any decisions, because as of this moment, I've only seen photos or scans of small portions of pages at a time. Dunno, maybe I'm just being too big a skeptic. --Rintaun 07:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's a strategy guide. The sheer number of people who are claiming they have held it (including the wiki dude) indicates it does exist, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just because the people saying so are Japanese and not members of this wiki shouldn't change too much, enough independent people are talking about it. If I said I had it right now, how much better would that be than the word of the anal-retentive wiki guy? Not much, in fact I think I'd trust me less... Aside from the Haseo thing, nothing really "conflicts" with the new info... Well, even the Haseo thing doesn't conflict given every other screwy continuity thing about G.U... But, regardless, the book exists, as definitely as if I were holding it. If it's fake it's the most elaborate publishing retail hoax thing I've heard of in my life, and someone's getting sued... Ok, gimme a second and I'll translate the Haseo thing. Aren't you like a scanslator or something though? - Kuukai2 07:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Fuzzy translation: He goes to a famous private school and his father is an executive at a major company, so he can do anything, regardless of cost. In spite of this, he often feels restless. After seeing an ad, he starts playing The World R:2. Before, when playing The World, he was data drained by Skeith. However, he has no recollection of the past surrounding his coma.
- Actually, the translation was a response to CRtwenty's request. Also, I just remembered, I think it was the first fanbook that said that when he saw the ad, he felt a "strange nostalgia". As for the book, I'm pretty sure it's the Vol.3 Strategy guide, though I'm trying to get this info. Either way, it's not a hoax, you can tell. There was an earlier hoax where people claimed there was a book that said Taihaku was Balmung. Not only was that less possible than Sora being Haseo, but there was no chatter about it on the official BBS or any wiki, and no pics. This one has all the indications that it's true. - Kuukai2 07:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm.. Looking around on the internet, I came across these two items on amazon jp...
- Actually, the translation was a response to CRtwenty's request. Also, I just remembered, I think it was the first fanbook that said that when he saw the ad, he felt a "strange nostalgia". As for the book, I'm pretty sure it's the Vol.3 Strategy guide, though I'm trying to get this info. Either way, it's not a hoax, you can tell. There was an earlier hoax where people claimed there was a book that said Taihaku was Balmung. Not only was that less possible than Sora being Haseo, but there was no chatter about it on the official BBS or any wiki, and no pics. This one has all the indications that it's true. - Kuukai2 07:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
http://xrl.us/upbt-vol1 http://xrl.us/upbu-vol2 They're basically Vol.1 and 2 "Complete Guides"... could this book be Vol.3's complete guide? (Note: I have nfi what's actually *in* these books XD)--Rintaun 07:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's my best guess, yeah. It comes out "second half of February", but that's the kind of thing that could easily be put out early. Either that or it's the Perfect Guide, but that's not supposed to come out for a month after the Vol. 3 one. People are saying "strategy guide" though. - Kuukai2 07:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Then prove it exists, Kuukai. No, I don't want pics of small portions of the "book" that could be easily made with a bit of computer graphics work, printing and then scanning to make it look "authentic". What I want is proof the book exists by posting the cover. Pics nao or it didn't happen. Kulaguy 14:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, here. Also the Amazon site to wipe away any conspiracy theories you have about the first one. They don't have the cover pic up yet, but that's meaningless since that's true for last December's issue of The World too. Anyway, it exists. It's .hack//G.U. Vol.3 Aruku You Na Hayasa De: The Master Guide. It was released on the 6th (in Japan time). It's the sequel to this guide. FYI, the summary on that site even says, "登場人物の本当の姿がわかるキャラクターガイドや": "and also a character guide that reveals the truth behind the characters."- Kuukai2 20:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- While Haseo MAY have been one of Skeith's victims (which I doubt... even with his memory erased he would still remember playing The World, or there would have been some mention of it by now), there is no way he could be Sora. We saw Sora in Unison, with his memory very much intact. Even the AI copy of his remembered everything. Haseo either never played The World, or doesn't remember playing The World, something we know Sora does. Therefore Haseo can not be Sora. --CRtwenty 21:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Then prove it exists, Kuukai. No, I don't want pics of small portions of the "book" that could be easily made with a bit of computer graphics work, printing and then scanning to make it look "authentic". What I want is proof the book exists by posting the cover. Pics nao or it didn't happen. Kulaguy 14:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Especially when you consider Haseo didn't know what the hell PKing was when he first began. My personal opinion on the matter is that maybe he was screwing on his friend's computer, Skeith came and messed him up, friend mourns a bit but keeps playing, and Haseo is never registered because as far as officials can tell, the "player" of the PC is fine and dandy. --AuraTwilight 23:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I know it's unlikely, but what about the possibility of the Sora in Unison being the A.I. copy from the games? I know that doesn't explain what happened to the A.I. versions of Subaru and Tsukasa, but it would offer atleast some explanation as to how he's able to become Haseo.
Not to sound stupid but...what if Unison was just non-cannon? --Sanjuro
- What if the entire series was non-canon? That solves all of our problems. But there's no evidence that Unison is non-canon, and I think trying to claim it is just to prove an unreliable theory right is a rather stupid thing to do. --CRtwenty 17:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- "Unreliable theory" is odd phrasing, CR, considering Haseo=Sora is quite official.
Hey, I don't want to believe Haseo is Sora. But according to a lot of people on the official Japanese G.U. forum, it clearly states in the new perfect guide that haseo is infact Sora. --Sanjuro
Too Long
This page is too freaking long, mostly cause of the games section. We need to do what we did with Kite and just briefly summarize what Haseo did in the games. Leaving the big explanation on the individual game pages. --CRtwenty 23:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- A lot of it is wrong too. I'll work on this. - Kuukai2 23:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
"Skeith"?
Alright, I'm new to both .hack and Wiki in general, so if this doesn't go here, sorry. But I was wondering how Haseo knows Skeith's name. When I first played Rebirth I noticed that when he first "summons" him he shouts out his name and found myself asking "how's he know that?" (Also on a side note, if there is any rules section for posting in this discussion area a point in it's direction would be of great help, thanks.)--Hencho414 13:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's possible it was something his sub-conscience knew about so when he summoned Skeith he said it reflexively.--Ellimist 14:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
The first time he summoned it, he didn't say it's name. So a more realistic answer would be that he read it on his screen when he was in Avatar mode.
Color
Did you know that white is the japanese color for death so when he gets his Xth form he's still associated with death,in Japan at least.--Kite X 02:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes... I feel pretty confident when I say that most of us were already aware of that. --CRtwenty 02:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
sorry...didn't know,but I read somewhere on here someone posted about him as coming to the light or somethin,nevermind.--Kite X 02:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- I knew this but forgot. *Realizes Kite "taught" him something.* OH GAWDZ NO!!! The world is going to die! >.>--Ellimist 04:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow
So basically your playing as Sora from the original .hack games?
- Not the same PC, but yes... basically. --CRtwenty 15:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- trippy
Haseo/Sora
If Haseo has no memory of being sora after the coma, then how do you explain sora poping up in the Unison eppsisode of .Hack//Sign where sora shows up during the party?
- Sora AI, or the episode not being canon. Take your pic. -Biccy 07:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- We don't. But if they ever do, they can pick from any of the following options:
- It was all a weird dream Haseo had.
- The OVA wasn't canon. The monkey dancing won't be missed.
- It wasn't the real Sora, but the AI Sora from the games.
- It wasn't that AI Sora, but one of the numerous memory fragments floating around, also from the games.
- Sora suffered mid-term anterograde amnesia as well and continued playing for a while.
- - Kuukai2 07:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- You assume in that list that the "AI Sora" from the games and the "real Sora" are different entities. I'm not so certain of that; rather, I suspect that there's only been one Sora throughout the series. --Shinsou Wotan 21:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sora is very left open with Zero. A number of things could have happened to him during the time that isn't accounted for. MirageAtoli 21:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know it's left open that it might be the real Sora who joins you. Of the three bonus characters, he's the only one with all his moves voiced, among other reasons. But since the Subaru you got wasn't the real Subaru, and Sora's case is left ambiguous, I see no reason why this couldn't be a possible explanation... - Kuukai2 22:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- You assume in that list that the "AI Sora" from the games and the "real Sora" are different entities. I'm not so certain of that; rather, I suspect that there's only been one Sora throughout the series. --Shinsou Wotan 21:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- - Kuukai2 07:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
But Subaru and Tsukasa seemed to have lost their memories when they join you and Sora clearly remebers everything.
- See Kuukai's fourth possible explanation.--SicInfit 00:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)