Talk:.hack//Wiki

Please add new messages to the end

Japanese .hack//WIKI

Robin Hood of the Azure Flame here, and I need help! Translating the .hack//WIKI into Japanese along with school work, family, friends, etc is a pain (but I'll do it for what I love (^o^). Anyways, I need people, ANYONE who has any info on .hack in Japanese, knows any Japanese to please contact me! My E-mail is masterpayne2292@yahoo.co.jp , please help. And, you can chat on the Japanese .hack//WIKI BBS[1]boards in the meantime. Thank you. --Robin Hood of the Azure Flame 15:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I just finished translating most of the main page, there maybe some errors, but hopefully more people who know Japanese will help fix them. -- Sanjuro

Time for an update?

Okay, since nobody else spoke up, I switched it to the green color scheme. If there are no objections, we should be able to put this up anytime. The only thing we'd have left to discuss in that case would be which day a new featured article would be put up.--OtakuD50 05:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks good to me, let's put it up. --CRtwenty 05:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Can't we get rid of that .hack//Wiki/Main Page header? Most of the Wikis I've checked are able to do that somehow...--OtakuD50 06:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been wondering about that too. It's obviously possible, I just have no idea how to do it. --CRtwenty 06:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

While we're on the subject, something's been bothering me for a while now. What's the deal with the "< .hack" thing just below that header?--OtakuD50 19:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Weapon Lists

I think there's something screwy with the Weaponlist(R:1) Template. None of the R:1 Weapon pages are displaying correctly. Does anybody know what the problem is? --CRtwenty 17:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. All the more reason to clean up the weapon pages. Kulaguy

Products/Merchandise

Is there a products/merchandise page here? AzureKnight 21:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? --CRtwenty 21:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Probably like a list of goods aside from the discs, books, and cards. Take these things, for instance:

http://www.hack.channel.or.jp/hack/new/fr_figure.html

http://www.hack.channel.or.jp/hack/new/fr_goods.html

- Kuukai2 00:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Profile pictures

Ok, which was it? Do we want body or head? I thought we decided on one of these, but I can't remember which. Updates since that decision seem to have gone both ways, so I thought it would be good to clarify. - Kuukai2 21:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it really matters...You won't be able to get the same type of picture for every character, so why not just use the best possible picture for each page? Rpg 22:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's whichever one is the best quality. Though we try to use official artwork as much as possible. --CRtwenty 22:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

You mean like concept art or something? I'm pretty sure we've, like, never used fanart, so it's all "official". - Kuukai2 05:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I think he meant as opposed to screencaps and game engine renderings. Rpg 05:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. - Kuukai2 05:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool page for .hack//Wiki's main!User:Male Wavemaster Enzeru

Wikia Gaming footer

I went ahead and added a Wikia Gaming footer to the bottom of the Main Page. We're trying to get Wikia's gaming wikis more linked with each other. It's not mandatory, so you can remove it if you really hate it, but it would be appreciated if you didn't :). You can change the links to point to any other wikia wikis you like or cooperate with. Ausir 00:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Skins

This is a survey. What skin do you use to view the wiki, and do you think we should change the default (that most readers see) if we could? The more opinions I can gather on this, the better. Thanks. - Kuukai2 22:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I HATE the new skin.-- Ellimist 03:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Same here. It takes a lot longer to load up for me, and I've tried that on several different computers.-- SicInfit 03:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the new skin is stupid. -- CRtwenty 05:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

We have skins? Kulaguy 13:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I use the default skin, monobook. Though for some reason when I use IE and aren't logged in, I get that horribly crappy Wikia skin...-- OtakuD50 17:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Kula, if you're in MonoBook, hit "try new skin" to see what we're talking about. You can change it back in preferences>skins. Wikia wants to use the new skin as default for all non-logged-in users (this change has already been applied to a number of Wikis), since it has more features and separates us from Wikipedia. You can read more here. I'm trying to get a show of opinions from our site to support the arguments I'm making in that thread. Everyone, feel free to post your opinions there, too. - Kuukai2 22:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

They all suck. Monobook for the win. Kulaguy 23:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I started a new wiki recently and the default skin is horrible. I left a notice in my main page telling new visitors how to switch to MonoBlock, and I'm looking for some way to make it the default. New skins are fine, but forcing one on the wikis is a terrible idea. Leandrotlz 19:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that isn't the official policy. As I understand it, the current plan is to eventually use Quartz as the default for pretty much every Wikia wiki but Uncyclopedia. The idea is that the default effects the users, not the editors, so it's not really our decision. I strongly disagree, since the editors are often in contact with the userbase (I know that's quite true for this site, where between us we're on every .hack forum in existence), and can make better informed decisions that the readers will appreciate. Wikia believes that Quartz supplies new features that readers will use, but I haven't found much to support that, at least for our site. I made a poll and so far .hack//Wiki users unanimously support MonoBook (there are like two people using the rating feature, but in no meaningful way). One thing you can do is to add something like these files:

http://gaogaigar.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice

http://gaogaigar.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice_id - Kuukai2 21:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Monobook is the best skin, how do you make it the default for your wiki?--Eskimospy 18:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

---

Okay, so I've played around with the new skin, and it isn't as bad as I remember, but I still prefer monobook. My main gripe is that, yes, it takes some getting used to since all the editing options and whatnot are located in different places, but that alone isn't worth jack. For starters, the Wikia search box at the top right kind of takes away from the identity of the site as ".hack//Wiki" (it's more like Wikia Presents .hack//Wiki). If that image can be changed, great, but if not, to hell with it. Speaking of images, the new skin eliminates the original logo and we have to use that mini-banner. This is more of a personal gripe, but dammit, I made that logo, and the banner was kind of just sprung on us. The Top Content option is fairly decent if used correctly, but since the majority of us prefer Monobook, it's practically useless; it seems the highest-rated and most visited articles are just random articles and files. I guess my last gripe just has mostly to do with laziness. I just don't like the overall color theme of Quartz (Smoke and Slate are basically the same, but with different colors), and we'd have to change a whole lot to customize .hack//Wiki to a more .hack-ish looking theme. In the long run, I suppose going down that road would be overall better, but sadly we have a rather small pool of users knowledgable about how Wikia works (we still haven't gotten rid of the header for the main page) and until we do, Monobook is just easier to work with. Oh, and where the hell is the quick button to add my signature? I can't believe I actually need to type the hyphens and tildas...-- OtakuD50 19:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, if it was properly modified the new skin would be perfect. However none of us have the knowledge, nor the motivation to do so. Until then I'm going to stick with monobook. --CRtwenty 20:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, as per the Wikia argument, what we think is irrelevant. Anon users are stuck with whatever the default is. Since Wikipedia is so popular, the classic MonoBook interface has the benefit of being familiar for many users, and the new widgets, etc., can be confusing. All the readers of .hack//Wiki I've talked to prefer the look of MonoBook. I think that Quartz is an enjoyable customization, but not a suitable default for the site. - Kuukai2 08:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I found out you can do it by setting the content of your MediaWiki:AdminSkin to monobook. This doesn't work for all versions of Mozilla and IE, but it does work for the current ones. Also it takes a little while, I think up to 24 hours, to adjust. (Had to use the built-in adjuster and change it to slate on mine to remember the page title.) - Kuukai2 19:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

My Monobook is not looking Monobooky, is anyone else experiencing a difficulty with skins? --Viscosity 02:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

It's the skin PanSola put up, but after dropkicking my preferences I was able to fix it. - Kuukai2 03:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Gaming wiki chat this Sunday!

Hi all,

On Sunday October 14th there is going to be an IRC chat for gaming wikis at the #wikia-gaming channel. Contributors, admins, and foudners of all/all gaming-related wiki on Wikia are invited to discuss common issues that we might have, sharing our experiences, and helping each other out. The time of the chat will be:

California	New York	London
1pm	4pm	9pm

Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!

-User:PanSola 16:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, this week's chat is happening in about 10 minutes. Hope to see you there! -PanSola 18:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

WHY FFXICLOPEDIA?

Why? It should be .hack//Wiki! Somebody please change it back! CloudKai 06:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

WTF are you talking about?

I assume he's talking about the top banner in the new skins. Last I checked, the logo was for FFXICLOPEDIA, and I guess it hasn't been fixed. The thing is, no one uploaded a new logo, so I don't know why it changed. However, there wasn't even a decision about the .hack banner we had in the first place...--OtakuD50 16:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I see a ".hack//Wiki" banner when I check out the new skins. So I have no idea what this guy's talking about. --CRtwenty 19:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the browser, and it's Wikia-wide, not just us. - Kuukai2 02:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I still see it as FFXIClopedia though...CloudKai 09:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's fixed yet. Go yell at Wikia? - Kuukai2 01:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

OK It's back - CloudKai 01:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Cancelled Series?

I've heard of canceling a series from Japan to America but has anyone heard of .hack//Amazon Bundle? If you search around the 'net all you find is that it was to be released in May of 2005 but nothing more. Any info?

- Fianna

That doesn't sound like a series. Just something like a collection of games or something for Amazon.jp. Just a guess, though.--Biccy 03:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Armor!

I'm trying to find some good, detailed lists of the armor available for classes in The World (not R2)... and I can't. I think this is a really big aspect of the Wiki that's missing. Is there anyone with such a list - or even access to information that could help in the construction to such a list? I'd gladly take on this task if someone can help get me started! --Menace64

There's a page, but no one has filled in the R:1 section. :( --Viscosity 23:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I'm saying... it's disturbingly devoid of information. I'll work on it if someone's got the raw information handy. --Menace64

I think this, this, and this are what you need. You can use the guide here as a one stop shop for the Japanese names and for proofchecking (if the numbers of items don't match up there's a problem). - Kuukai2 05:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I gave it a shot with the light head armors... something in the formatting is wrong. If somebody would point out my mistake, I'll get the rest posted ASAP! --Menace64

We haven't worked on the armor tables because of the problems involving the tables. Kulaguy 05:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a new wiki

Hi all, just letting you guys know that recently a new wiki specifically for The World has been created, and is at theworldcc.wikia.com. Please check it out and support it, and hopefully work out how the two wikis can best cooperate! -User:PanSola^{(talk/history)} 01:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a fan site for the crappy cyberconnects game. What do you guys think? Kulaguy 05:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I got the same impression. BWAAAHAHAHAHA!!OtakuD50 06:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

A crappy wiki for a crappy game. How appropriate. Get out of here, loser. --AuraTwilight 21:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

No need to be rude. That being said, I find it highly unnecessary to have a Wiki for a fan-game.EmiHinata 20:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

You've obviously never dealt with the idiots at CyberConnects. Driving them out with insults is much better than letting them stick around, spreading their stupidity to the impressionable newbies. --Twilight Duality 08:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming IRC channel

Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net, where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from http://irc.wikia.com/gaming.

Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Popular Character Poll

http://www.cc2.co.jp/trilogy/index.html

Click on Special. Figure it out form there. Thanks to Lindz on gamefaqs for pointing this out.--Rpg 08:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Vote for 謎の男, the mysterious man at the end of Trilogy, since they'll have to draw him if he's one of the top two. If he gets high enough in the ranking, people might catch onto this. Otherwise it's just going to be Haseo and Yowkow again... - Kuukai2 02:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you know what he said? I couldn't catch it. --Rpg 03:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Pi: The threat has ended. The situation was as you predicted.

Mysterious Man: Nothing opposes the will of heaven, then? What is Schicksal doing?

Pi: They've already moved to the next stage.

Mysterious Man: *laughs* Give oars to the ferrymen.

Pi: Very well.

Mysterious Man: *laughs* Gather at Acheron, o captives of Charon. - Kuukai2 04:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

So LINK ties into Trilogy, instead of the canon storyline? All these alternate universes are starting to get too confusing...--Rpg 04:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't mean LINK ties into TRILOGY so much as TRIlOGY ties into LINK, or something. What I mean is it doesn't mean LINK isn't canon, since lots of things have come out in non-canon first (like Shino being an Innis user), and they probably wanted to use the venue of a motion picture to hook people into the next big thing... - Kuukai2 04:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The World R:2

The World R:2 Anyone got any information on this? I seem to recall coming across this site a couple of years ago, so I know it's been around for a while, but that's all I know. So what's the deal? Is it some kind of advertising ploy for G.U., or maybe simply a hoax? Or is it for one of those fan-made games, like CyberConnects or something? --Twilight Duality 08:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Just a weird fan thing, check the whois info if you really want to know who did it. - Kuukai2 18:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, the whois info? What's that? Is it in the Page Info or something? (I'm using Fire Fox, BTW.)--Twilight Duality 04:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WHOIS. - Kuukai2 04:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Monaco skin

Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

Many of ours wikis are switching over the default skins (for anon users) to our new skin "Monaco" this month. Most of the big wikis have already switched (i.e WoWWiki, Wookieepedia Dofus and FFXIclopedia).

I have not altered .hack//Wiki as I see the change has been reverted once. However, please check out the following:

Monaco is now the main actively developed Wikia skin platform. As a successor to Quartz, it comes with even more customizability - you can find out more on Customizing Monaco (on Wikia Help); you can also find out info about the new features and widgets available. The Gaming team has already creating your MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar, but you can customize it much further with more links.

An admin can set the default site skin via the skin section on Special:Preferences, or by editing MediaWiki:AdminSkin. If users wish to see another skin than the default, they can untick "See custom wiki skins (recommended)" on the same page.

We really want wikis to move on to Monaco partly because it's more awesome than Quartz and Monobook and partly as it is where the bulk of our resources are currently aimed :) Please report any problems or questions with Monaco here

Thanks for listening! Kirkburn (talk) 12:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Poke! Has anyone tried out the new skin? (I've updated the text above a bit.) Kirkburn (talk) 12:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Haven't tried out Monaco yet, but from looking at it, it's waaaaaaaay better than Quartz or any other skin save Monobook. It looks like it's worth switching to if we can customize it properly.--OtakuD50 14:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

You certainly can customize to a pretty large extent, especially colour-wise. Kirkburn (talk) 18:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Prod, anyone had further thoughts on this? Kirkburn (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Reprod :P The latest version of Monaco is very similar to Monobook - see [2] for example. The Monobook skin is uncustomized, so this may be a good opportunity to help the site stand out. If you want me to help customize it, I would be glad, but I would like to get the switch completed by the end of the week. Remember, you can still choose your own personal skin. Kirkburn (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Final prod. I would like to switch to Monaco by the end of the week - any choices of preferred theme? I note the logo is partially green, so Jade might work? Or perhaps a custom colour scheme? Kirkburn (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't even like that logo. It was just some random guy who uploaded it as a placeholder until we made an actual one of .hack//Wiki. We need a better one for the Monaco skin. Kulaguy 16:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Are you referring to Image:Wiki.png? The same logo is used on Monaco and Monobook (more on w:c:help:Help:Logo). Kirkburn (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

No, . But it's good to know the original logo will be used. Kulaguy 17:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Eek! Well, green still seems appropriate, so I will switch to Monaco Jade for now. Remember, you can still use Monobook as a personal preference. Kirkburn (talk) 13:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Main page layout

Hullo! I have been working on an update for the main page layout, which you can see on User:Kirkburn/Dev. It's a fairly important update, and you can find out why on User talk:Kirkburn/Dev. I would love to get some feedback on it. I know the colour scheme is not complete - if anyone here wants to tweak and play around with it, that would be great. Thanks! Kirkburn (talk) 13:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Why do we have to change the main page for another skin? Monobook > All. I would prefer to keep Monobook as the default on this Wiki. Kulaguy 19:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

This is only about the main page layout atm, not the skin. Kirkburn (talk) 16:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I believe the current layout we have is fine. Otaku put a lot of work into it and there's no need for a change. Also, god dammit. More ads? Even ones implemented on the page. That's just fucking stupid. I was fine with it on the side, but if it's part of the article, that's just invasive. Kulaguy 18:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you want Monobook you should restore your MediaWiki:AdminSkin page. A trigger-happy bot ran away with it... - Kuukai2 07:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

That page doesn't do anything any more, that's why the bot deleted it. The skin was being set in two places (MediaWiki:AdminSkin and Preferences) and they were getting out of sync.. with obvious problems. Now the skin is always set via admin's Preferences.

On the general change to Monaco, I'm afraid that is coming. There is a lot of info about this and the ad changes at Wikia:Wikia's New Style

The Main page change is part of this. The current design will break when the second main page ad is turned on - and this will be happening soon. The ad floats into a 300px column on the right, and if the column isn't there, it will end up pushing the whole main page down. That's what we are trying to avoid with this layout change. You can see examples of how this works at wikis including w:c:starwars, w:c:wowwiki and w:c:ffxi

I know this isn't going to be popular, and is a big change to impose on you. After a lot of talk with the Wikia community, we are hoping to make this main page ads the only ones that logged in users will see. Hopefully that will help. But ad revenue is vital for Wikia to continue to be able to provide the space and service we do. -- sannse (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It would also be a big change to migrate to a free-er (as in speech) wiki farm. What benefits are there to staying with Wikia? - Kuukai2 21:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It would take a while to migrate. Kulaguy 00:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I can't speak for our noble competitors ;) but I like to think that Wikia has the best community and technical support, and the best features and development. For those into open software, we have just started on an open svn and volunteer development program, something I think is going to be a big plus for us and the community. Sure, ads are a pain, and so are the requirements of having a sellable ad package (which includes a consistent default skin) but I believe the long term benefits are worth it. -- sannse (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, we could use a bot. I might test that out on my wiki. I'm just saying we should consider the option... - Kuukai2 05:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I have given User:Kirkburn/Dev a big overhaul with the colour scheme of the current main page (it was my original intention, but I hadn't finished it). Kirkburn (talk) 21:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Just make it the same as the current layout only with room for the idiotic ad. There's no need to add all that extra stuff that we don't need. Kulaguy 00:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Kulaguy, why don't you edit to show how you think it should look? The main page column tags are very straightforward, it's just:

<mainpage-rightcolumn-start />
right column content

<mainpage-endcolumn />

<mainpage-leftcolumn-start />
left column content

<mainpage-endcolumn />

Thanks -- sannse (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I seriously would do it if I could, but I have no idea what to do there. The only HTML I know is pretty much bold, italicize and line break. Heck, I just copied and pasted the templates when we first started out and edited the obvious so it would reflect .hack specifications. I believe I copied a Harry Potter template at Wikipedia for the Character template. >_> Though, I'll try giving it a shot in a bit. Kulaguy 21:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

There's more info about the column tags on w:c:help:Help:Main page column tags. Kirkburn (talk) 11:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've had a go at taking it as close back to the main page as possible. Of course, you could adjust the boxes to have more or less on each side, and more or less in each box, but basically it's the main page as it is now - just with a 300px fixed-width column. I think really that this is as close to a happy-place as we are going to get for now. So I'd like to switch to this version tomorrow. That doesn't stop further tweaks of course, or even someone coming up with a whole new design, but does allow the basic structure to go live. So let me know what you think, and I'll check in to make the switch tomorrow -- sannse (talk) 18:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit more clean up and fixed the FA spacing issue and put the page live. It shouldn't appear too different to the original :) Kirkburn (talk) 15:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

The top banner really needs to be a page-length banner... I don't like it being all scrunched up in the left side like that. I do like what you did with the Terminology section though. But the top needs to go back to the way it was. Also, I tried my best to keep the empty white space at the bottom to a minimum by keeping the columns as close to even as possible... If you can fix that along with that annoying "<.hack" thing that appears below the heading, I'll have no problems. It seems the same thing showed up when you put a copy of the main page on your page, so there must be something in the code that does that...--OtakuD50 22:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

It won't really be possible to make the banner full width - may I enquire what resolution you are running at? On my PC columns are as closely balanced as is really possible at the moment - which way are they unbalanced on yours? For the header stuff - I just added CSS to MediaWiki:Common.css to hide that, and the page title. Should result in everything moving up the page a bit. Kirkburn (talk) 12:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the banner, it wasn't really much of a problem. I didn't mess with the columns though. I'm still uncertain why they aren't exactly aligned at the top... I'm running on 1024 x 768 FYI. And thanks for finally getting rid of the page title, we've been needing to take care of that since forever.--OtakuD50 23:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that you have put a full width box under the ad. So the second ad, instead of just pushing down the fixed width column, pushes down the whole top box (and everything below it). So you get that wide space. The page needs to have these two columns for the format to work -- sannse (talk) 12:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you're talking about. What wide space? The only difference I see is that the way it is now is uglier, which is why I put it back. And what's this about breaking the page (in the edit history)? The main page worked just fine.--OtakuD50 03:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It took me a while to realise why you were seeing things differently - I forgot this wiki's default is still monobook (and you probably have that as a personal choice). The changes in the page are designed to ensure the new ads (currently on Monaco) don't break the main page. What I see for the older version is:

File:Dothack main page.jpg

You see the wide blue space? that's where the content is pushed down, and because it's full width, it moves down as a block. With the 300px column in place, that column is pushed down, leaving the other column at the top of the page:

File:Dothack main page2.jpg

As Monaco will soon be the default for all Wikia wikis, this will be what new users see, so it's important to have it looking right!

And talking of Monaco, have people here thought more about a custom version for this wiki? For examples of what can be done, see Military Wikia, Rappelz or even (just to give you all a heart attack) UK Transport Wikia. We can help a lot with this, or you can go ahead and make it yourself. The page showing you how to do this is on the Help Wikia. Or, we can switch to Monaco Sapphire now (which is generally considered the most neutral) and you can customise at your leisure later. We have a lot of wikis to visit and help with this change, so it would be great to get this one done soon! Thanks -- sannse (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, now I see. I take it there's no way to make separate versions for different skins? Or some kind of code that only take effect in those skins?--OtakuD50 00:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to do that I'm afraid - and you should note that the ads will eventually be the same on all skins, so this need for a column will be part of Monobook too -- sannse (talk) 09:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I find it embarrassing That our own front page has broken links, specifically: "Cross Rengeki" and Epitaph of Twilight". I can understand things yet to be released, but G.U. has been out forever. At least take it off the front page if it's not important enough to get an artical. I don't know whar it's there for. As for the epitaph, it's real smart to have someone click the link that obvious leads to the poem and then have to answer which epitaph. It says "Epitaph of the Twilight" not "Epitaph", so surely you can rule out the sign and roots episodes of that name. I've tried editing that one my self, but obviously, Morganna rejects my intervention. Changing the link to even "The Epitaph of the Twilight(poem)", the artical's own name, makes it a broken link. If i knew how I'd fix it my self, and I did try, but I know not the ways of the Wikipedia Mode Gone. It would be great if this could be cleared up.--Falcon At 23:03, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Unnecessary deletions?

The Haseo prototype, Shugo and Rena pix (fragment), and Azure Flame Kite LINK (I havent seen it yet) pictures are all deleted. May I ask why? Enzeru 00:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)""

GU Games info

Enzeru 00:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Does someone mind making a page for the forums in the GU games? I don't have Rebirth or Redemption.

New .hack games for the DS

http://www.cc2.co.jp/new2/index.html

Souen no Kite 04:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Will you people shut the hell up about this yet? As we've been saying for a year, It's not a .hack project, it's a Tail Concerto game. You're so god damned stupid. --AuraTwilight 19:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Goddamn...I've been out of touch with the dot hack fandom since GU Vol. 3 came out, and I hadn't been able to find anything about it anywhere. It says "To The World" on it, and there's a guy who looks like Kite in the bottom corner. It's only natural I'd think it was .hack related. Don't bite my ****ing head off. Souen no Kite 00:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It's .hack//Tail Concerto. Duh. Kulaguy 01:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Scrolls?

Makes me wonder I have tried searching for a nice list of the all the scrolls from either The World R:1 or R:2. I have failed, so does anyone know where I can find any good lists of the scrolls and what each one does? Or is that just impossible >.<

--Zero Skeith 20:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Zero Skeith

It's true that we have a lack of that information. A lot of our articles seem to have been left unfinished, and we really need to get back to that. Or you could take the initiative and fill out that information yourself. I'm just not sure where it belongs exactly...--OtakuD50 02:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Consumables. Kulaguy 03:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Data Creation

I just finished Outbreak and recently gotten quarantine, i converted my data and got to play for maybe an hour, when i went to save it, it said "save failed." I thought that was odd, so i just turned it off and planned on starting again the next day, well when i went to dataload it said there was no quarantine data, which i ha..... - 24.116.49.180

I deleted a portion and moved your questions here:http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/Data_Creation:_Anyone_else_had_this_issue_(Reposted_and_moved_for_the_author) If anyone has the same issue they will contact you. The issue is most likely your disk or memory card. If there is nothing wrong with the data then those are the only two choices I can think of. Recheck your data flag. 01:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

.hack//G.U. BLACK & WHITE

http://cc2.shop-pro.jp/?mode=f12 new guide book

Unfortunately, it's a limited edition, and the FAQ says they won't ship outside of Japan. Chances of any of us seeing it seem pretty slim. --Shinsou Wotan 05:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

D8

Template edit?

Can the character templates be edited to include the katakana and the romaji? Maggosh 13:53, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The Japanese name goes at the beginning of the article, so it doesn't need to be in the character template. If we want to add romaji to that, that's what the "nihongo" template on various other wikis and Wikipedia is for. We have so many pages, though, that converting to this is pretty impractical. I think things are fine the way they are... - Kuukai2 22:09, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Go ahead. Shoot me.Maggosh 22:38, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Let me rephrase my answer. I'd be absolutely for adding the nihongo template if it didn't involve editing about a thousand pages. Doing this for just the characters would be inconsistent with all the other pages. I've started two wikis since working on this one and I've made sure to use that template from the beginning. - Kuukai2 00:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know much about the romaji addition but for the first era lets add a weapon's category. Its been in trivia for a while not but I think its the type of thing to appear often enough. I'll even work on the pages myself if it seems like too much work. The example looks good. (This is also a good chance for a tab system if anyone knows how) Outlaw630 23:24, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

But it pretty much is trivia. It's not very important, and for a portion of the characters it can be 3-4 different things... - Kuukai2 00:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Tabs?

This topic is about the tab feature seen on the digimon wiki.

I noticed a tab system used on another wikia. Let's add the same here, we can use them to separate information and pictures. Outlaw630 04:49, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

How does it work? If it requires us to edit 1,000 pages I'm against it. - Kuukai2 06:13, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I saw it used on the KH Wiki. So how would we do it? Edit the pages for characters that appear in more than one game? Maggosh 12:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any tabs there, just links at the top to all the games a character is in. We pretty much do that, it's just at the bottom, in category form. - Kuukai2 00:20, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

How about taking a broader approach and include anime and manga? Maggosh 01:38, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Uh.. We do that. Novels too. - Kuukai2 06:17, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking we could use it to separate by media. .hack, .hack//XXXX, and .hack//Another Birth could each represent a tab because they represent the same time line. If not that then I also though perhaps images should be treated as such. Another form would represent a tab. Personally I believe it could be used in a variety of ways. I've looked up some information about it. (http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Tab_view) From what I understand it works like categories separation. There's an edit called tab view. The one I'm thinking of though is the tagger code. (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tabber)

Here's an example. I think we can do better as long as we don't go as crazy.(http://wikimon.net/Lilithmon)

...Wait a minute, wasn't this what I thought we were talking about before? I never thought of the icons as 'tabs'. Maggosh 20:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The icon feature on the kingdom hearts page and the tab feature on the lilithmon page are totally different. I'm more interested in the potential for this one, but I still think it would be annoying to renovate so many pages. I'll try to think about good ways we could use it, though... - Kuukai2 06:06, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

That feature does seem to have its uses though. For instance, it should be possible to switch between character "versions" like G.U. or LINK incarnations without the need for multiple articles. At least, that's what I got from the Lilithmon link. Of course I don't know anything about its implementation and it's been years since I had the time to buckle down and study wiki code, but if it can be pulled off, more power. Though, the picture I have in mind may not be what you have in mind.--OtakuD50 00:37, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Series Icons

This topic is about the icon feature seen on the kingdom hearts wiki.

*original comment removed for retardedness* Maggosh 12:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

This isn't even the same thing that Outlaw suggested, so I'm making a new section. If you really want to commit, under punishment of everyone hating you if you don't finish, to editing all 250+ character pages on your own, then go ahead and come up with some possible icons and post them here, and we can vote on it and see if this is worth the change aesthetically. - Kuukai2 02:31, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Oookay....not exactly the best time for me. Three major study projects due in the next two weeks, but I'll do what I can. Maggosh 02:56, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

What are the limits to size? The Kingdom Hearts Wiki uses icons of 45x45 pixels. The individual logos of each series are to detailed to transfer that small, but I have some ideas that may get the point across while still being astheticly pleasing. Image Upload is down currently so I'll post them later. I may proove to be unreliable, but as of the present I am free to help. (Then again, I don't care if anyone hates me.)--Falcon At 21:46, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ah crap, I just remembered this. I'm free to do it now. Maggosh 22:23, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I have three:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/maggosh/imoq.png http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/maggosh/gu.png http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/maggosh/gu-1.png

Personally, I think the IMOQ icon should be redone. The other two need refining. Maggosh 22:50, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have some self made ones. These lack the glitter of the ones Maggosh found/made, but they are largely flexable. If any changes need to be made, I can do it. I uploaded the first ten as an example. I have 33 in total as of now, including revision eras, series, games, spinoffs, and have even included the card and mobile games. --Falcon At 23:29, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

File:4koma.png File:Ab.png File:Aib1.png File:Aib2.png File:Alcor.png File:Cell.png File:Chat.png File:Enemy.png File:Eott.png File:Fragment.png I'm not sure how to put the pictures here quite yet, but I'm gonna try. --Falcon At 23:29, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I've been meaning (read: not actively planning but hoping someone else would) to have this stuff, so looking forward to progress.--OtakuD50 06:36, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I've come to realize I haven't actually signed up for any hard work. Despite not caring whether or what foul words are used with my name, I can help to edit those pages, too, if I could be taught how.Falcon At 23:25, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Do we have one? Maggosh 13:34, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

We lost it along with the original box.--OtakuD50 06:34, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, actually just noticed that we kinda have bits and pieces of a Manual of Style, found in the Help section and the Community Portal. Maybe we should work on getting a formal one up and running.--OtakuD50 22:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good idea. On another note, I noticed we didn't have a Delete template, so I made one. Maggosh 01:53, January 15, 2010 (UTC)